the situation, what is the united states' role? >> that's an interesting question, susan, because so far the u.s. has accepted somewhere between 1,000 and 1,800 refugees from syria in the last year. so the question is, do we accept more and rick talked about a national security aspect and also the national security aspect as you bring in thousands of refugees, might some of them be terrorists? >> well, i suppose it's possible. although we recognize our obligation of people having a well-founded fear of persecution in their homeland that they get humanitarian treatment. you can hardly argue that the people in hungary don't fear persecution in their homeland. the united states has an obligation there. and if we expect countries in europe to step up to the plate with this, surely the united states will be forced to step up in a more serious way than taking a thousand or 1500 syrian