is standby equipment but still an important part of the government. i don't know if he's the one to change it. pollsters said we're all like the rolling stones. we can't get no satisfaction. the 71% who are dissatisfied deeply or angry clearly want some change. and it kind of explains some of the things happening on the republican side. >> sure. >> it explains why there's so much support for candidates who come outside of government and politics. >> trump, carson, fiorina. >> what do you make of ben carson's assent? do you take it seriously? >> of course i take it seriously. you have to pay attention to what people are doing and saying. he has risen up without any melodramatic statements, without any drama. he is a quiet guy. although he 's saying important things. he is a quiet guy. he scores with people on the personal characteristic and also on the republican side they like