home free and let go is outrageous. and in the long run it's harmful because it will lead to trafficking and people pretending this is their kid just to use them for illegal immigration. it's easy to kind of wring our hands and emote. but you have to consider the long term consequences of these kinds of decisions. >> it is very complex. mark, great to see you tonight. thank you so much. >> thank you. now reaction tonight to the debate over bitter right citizenship in the 14th amendment. does it really mean that children of illegal immigrants are automatically u.s. citizens? former justice department attorney is here. plus -- >> i'll use the word anchor baby. excuse me. i'll use the word anchor baby. >> is that not bombastic? >> no, it isn't. give me another word. >> alan combs weighs in on the controversial term anchor baby and its use on the campaign trail.