that's sort of like brand new, and that is the president, aapparently, has given his blessings to joe biden to run that's not a mutual statement. i think journalists who are still enthralled by barack obama may be influenced by that they may be influenced by that. >> the war on women thing though. i mean, look, i don't know how they campaign against each other because as we established there is no difference in their political philosophy. they are straight down the line doctrineaire liberal democrats. in never go against the party. never offer a solution out of what the party has said for the last 20 years. >> that's right. >> they're not going to go up against joe biden. joe biden is mini me to barack obama. is he never going to go against what barack obama says ever. hillary, there is a little bit of a difference. here's the deal. a owe he bama likes biden and i don't think he likes hillary very much. for him, knowing the