way to force the debate. when we actually have the debate, we have a more logical result coming out the other end. that's what i think this is. >> and the debate rages on. our thanks to congressman. out west firefighters desperately trying to beat back the flames. they are running low on resources, but desperately needed help is on the way, with more folks stepping in to help out. >> there wasn't a whole lot you could do about it, you know, fire is -- it's its own master. it just does what it wants. and it just kind of raged around.