>> i have not heard the bell just yet. you're all very well behaved. governor gilmore? >> i chaired homeland security committee for united states. we warned about the 9/11 attack before the 9/11 attack occurred. i was the governor during the 9/11 attack when the pentagon was struck. and i'm going to tell you this. we need to use the benefit of our law enforcement people across this country, combined with our intelligence people across this country. we need to use our technological advantages. because what we've warned of is an international guerilla movement that threatens this country. it's going to happen in this country. there are going to be further attacks. we have to be prepared to defend the american people, prepare them for a long war, stand up for the defense of this country, and stand up for the values of this country. >> thank you, governor. i've got to move on to immigration here. senator santorum, you would argue you have one of the tougher positions on illegal immigration in the entire 17 candidate field at the moment. we often talk about this issue on the abstract level in washington, d.c. but you know how it's being talked about in states like iowa and new hampshire among illegals