sieber attacks from anybody including isis. we don't know what their cyber capabilities are. but we certainly know that they have the will to do that if they develop the means. when they develop the means we'll see isis conduct the kind of attacks we haven't seen inch this country. not attacks focused on gang intelligence from the u.s. government or hacking into u.s. companies. but the times of attacks that will just do damage. bill: you could have said suicide bombers in new york city or multiple attacks at multiple times. >> having specific information about their potential cyber capabilities is one of the knowledge gaps that we have that