this much for a heart. however you feel about abortion julie, it is horrifying. >> it really is. to bring this to politics in washington we've seen from the white house, it's an effort to try to keep distance from this. i mean they do not want to weigh in on this in a robust way. >> i was going to ask you, this week -- did this gain any traction at the white house? >> it didn't. the one thing we heard was the brief on friday where the press secretary said things in line with the statement we saw from planned parenthood. i think from the republican perspective, the republicans have had trouble in recent years talking about abortion. they have said thing that have been offputting to a lot of women and voters. they see this video the whohorrific nature of what is being