>> here's why this is -- >> let him talk. >> my concern that there's a rise in crime rates. of course i am. has the mainstream liberal media changed any in the last 20 years? no. there's no change there. >> every day you read about some cop shooting someone, whacking somebody in the face like that's the norm. >> with all due respect, they're on the warpath against them night and day. >> explain that ben. explain that. >> night and day. >> silly point. it's night and day. ben was right. >> it's absolutely true. you've broken the spirit of the police in many cities and that is going to hurt everyone. >> every day you get a story in national papers about some cop somewhere doing something wrong. every single day. particularly in "the new york times" with, you know this underscores the bad problems what the police are doing nationwide. when that becomes the norm every