justice system, if you believe in our courts and our constitution, you should believe -- >> you can believe in all those things. under that argument, mark you could never have a change of venue. even the judge who ordered it doesn't believe in our justice system or jury system. >> that's true. >> you can believe fully in the justice system and say it's too volatile to be charged in the city of baltimore. weeks of riots. excuse me. skyrocketing murder rate in the wake of this case that one is for for mark. go ahead, mark. >> well, i think the evidence is in. it was called a riot. the evidence is in by ms. mosby's statements. the evidence here is for any jury if they're going to look at this case, really by the law and richard seems to be big on the law, there is no evidence. >> that's okay, mark. you work for the law correct. >> any of the charges. quit interrupting rich around. there is no evidence to charge on any of these charges none of