contender. >> wisconsin is your home state. >> it is. tommy thompson ran in 2008 and that didn't help him win. he did a terrible job then. as rick said scott walker is durable right now. he dip as little bit, but as more people have gotten in the race they are choosing different candidates. as you look into the poll conservative to somewhat conservative. still strong in iowa. >> behind trump is carson at 10%. a businessman and a neurosurgeon and bush at 8%. trump and carson. >> people like outsiders. even if trump and carson are splitting, trump has been in the new as lot. he was on the program talking about the immigration issue appealing to a lot of people. carson intrigues me. this is a guy that doesn't have the megaphone trump does but he's caught on in a real way.