run situations it's a breeding ground for corruption and incompetence. it looks like the same exact thing happened here at the state run facility. you have the hamburger helper yet they're not checking the beds because i don't want to wake up the prisoner. does that surprise you? >> honestly it doesn't surprise me at all. whether it's a state facility or a federal facility the reality is when executives and politicians are highly involved -- in this case they're highly involved in the prison system you get things like the va where the va kills more veterans than anything in the country. they're housing the people because they've murdered and killed but yet they don't want bother them because they might get a little flashlight in their eyes and lose a little sleep. >> now i know that in some prisons -- and we've dealt with this. the prisoner was running the prison.