who knew that this man had the ability to get $40,000 in cash delivered to his home with no bank questions, with no police questions. they admit that there are lots of people involved here. why are they just holding my client's head on the totem pole? why are they doing that? because they've got blinders on. they're not saying -- >> because your client left a little bit of himself at the scene. that's how they know. because what is the coincidence 11 years later he decides to go to the family's house that they're being held and tortured and have pizza with them? does that make sense? your client is somebody who has a criminal record domestic violence and assault. all of those things are in keeping with conduct that we're seeing at this particular scene. and domestic violence. >> he's never injured anyone. there have been some threats. every young man utters threats.