that somehow gets you out of here? you are here forever? >> right. new hampshire has truth in sentencing laws. so, the life without parole literally means life without parole because in a lot of states it doesn't. so people get confused. but in new hampshire that's what it means. >> we have tried to talk to bill. he won't talk to us. >> i'm not -- the state of new hampshire doesn't want him to talk to anybody. they have made that specific at his parole board. >> why are they so afraid that he is going to talk? what are they so afraid that he is going to say? they have pretty much admonished them both of them at both parole board hearings and it was brought up again and brought up at pete randals parole board hearing. i don't expect them to be talking to anybody. >> he got parole. when his sentence, he had an eligibility for parole. >> he got a plea bargain. then he got a sentence reduction. and then he got parole. >> but he also got the ability to be paroled? >> yes, yes. >> you got sentenced with no