issue with the will o of the iraqis to fight isil and defend themselves. >> an issue. that's putting it nicely. it seems to be a divide. last week you had the president saying we're showing success, everything is fine. nothing to see here. you have this defense secretary caught sort of on the street almost in this unscripted moment answering this question about isis. and the fight of the iraqi army. we asked lieutenant colonel ralph peters about this weird double talk from the administration. here's what he had to say. >> when he said that, hallelujah somebody in washington finally gets it. washington is a numbers town. they count stuff. even the pentagon is counting number of troops weapons and trainers. this kind of fight isn't about numbers, it's about strength of will. ashe carter who is becoming a very impressive secretary is making a point. >> we need to get into the minds