ground in syria. raids like this that gather that type of inform it and leverage it and we need to be doing more. we need to have better insight into what this threat is doing in their backyard. as long as we continue to allow them to have a safe haven to operate, they are going to continually be a threat. >> i want to talk to you about the intelligence that would be gathered. you have been involved in these kind of special operations in the clandestine service. we know the guy they were trying to get is dead. at least we think that's who they were trying to get. maybe there's a bigger fish they missed. we know they have his wife. women aren't really worth that much in terms of intelligence value because most of the time in the middle east they're not really part of the network. women don't often wear the pants in terrorist families. third thing though is all the electronic intelligence you could have gathered. what's happening right now with the delta force's safe house? they are bringing back all of this intelligence. >> we call it doc-ex. document exploitation. all of that information, probably most of it has been gone through. the electronics, the paper