police officers and people in law enforcement, when they wake up in the morning and go about their duties they go out to help people assist them. they don't go tout tout wreak havoc. a lot of times they think that's what we're trying to do and that's not the case at all. >> when you talk about young americans, young african-americans in particular and they have such a jaded view, what do you tell them? >> well neil it's difficult to answer. >> i know. >> you try to talk to them explain to them we're actually on the same side. i'm not trying to hurt you. i'm trying to help you. i'm trying to assist you. allow me to help you. >> there are two different cities in madison how they're responding to a police shooting and in baltimore how they're responding to a police shooting. the bottom line these incidents keep happening. sadly so train crashes and other horrific events. in context to all of that dan,