elton simpson now is so shocked that he was doing this did they not know about the 2011 conviction? were they unaware of what was going on? were they unaware that he was tapped by the feds? that came out in the court that the fbi has been tapping him for four years. suddenly they're just surprised today? >> reporter: well it seems talking to his former attorney who represented him in that case she claims that the charges were really trumped up and they didn't have that much against him, hence, the reason why he was convicted of a much lesser crime of just lying to federal authorities. so the people who were involved in that situation obviously felt like it wasn't something very serious that happened back then. >> all right. well i guess maybe it's just me but if i had a friend that was being wire tapped for four years, i would be a little suspicious even if it turned out not to be a whole lot. andrew thank you. new information on these two terrorists and their ties to terrorism. kathryn joins us. >> reporter: greta, we have been able to look at some of the