you've been very outspoken about your thoughts based on the information that the police have released today. >> right. and the essence of the conclusion that i have drawn is that the trigger point for this as much as it was the death of freddie gray it was the absence of the identification of the cops and the charges presented against the cops. this was avoided in south carolina of course there we had a video of a cop shooting the guy in the back. it was avoided in south carolina by the quick identification of him, and the quick charging of him with what appeared to be reasonable at the time. they sense have adjusted the charges, but he's still in jail. people got the perception and the reality that the law applies to everybody. there's not one set of laws for the police and one for everybody else. now we are confronted with a variety of investigations. the police have an internal investigation to see what these cops did. why they stopped him. what each of the six say happened in the van. we have the -- >> they gave a report on why