>> he owes $59,000. >> and melissa harris. are they not paying the people over there? what is going on? >> i'm not certain. you think they would have been but tax warrants and liens have been filed one after another. >> saying not everyone doing their part she's not doing her part. >> she owed $70,000 according to tax warrant, she said she paid a third of that. this is just hypocrisy. >> now the reverend al has been to the white house 90 times now and owes as much as $4.5 million? >> his tax situation is so complex. you know it's a lot of different entities but "new york times" tallied it up. he disagree was that.