congress has been cutting the budget, and so it seems to be a muddle and there is a role question of whether this is the right agency to lead an important battle fold in terms of the information wars and propaganda wars against our terrorist. two and half million a year guess to the voice of america. if it can that one thing. but do you think that voice of america is the right place to fight the battle? >> i have my doubts. it is kind of old technology and it was designed to penetrate different countries where they couldn't get another point of view because of state- controlled media and also our serious foes today are stateless forces like al-qaeda and isis. if they can't modernize and figure out what it wants to do maybe it is time for other elements of the u.s. government