pitch. i would expect that it is going to be pretty significant but there will have to be other parts of why she is running for president. jon, i mean it is not just a legacy thing. it is not just breaking the glass ceiling thing. there will have to be substance behind those policies and how she will differ from president obama in certain ways and embrace him in other ways. i mean, that will be the truck thing as we get ready to listen to this launch, just days from now. it has to, by the way happen within about two weeks since she already signed a lease for an office space in brooklyn. the fec says you have 15 days once that starts. jon: she republicans obviously are going to try to portray this as the third obama term in their battles against hillary clinton. how does she try to step away from that? >> well, i think she is going to distance herself from a few things and perhaps early on suggest that she would do things