great welfare utopia. president obama is proud of the fact that we have record amounts of people on food stamps, welfare. there are 60 dependency programs run by the government. it makes poverty more comfortable. you don't get off of poverty when you are that comfortable. it makes it so that you don't have to take risk. this guy is 1,000% wrong. >> if you listen to his argue. he's saying the more welfare, the more handouts that the government would give you, the more people would take risks and more companies. well, we've never had so many people on food stamps as we have right now. you would imagine the business would be booming in that department. but it's not. >> unfortunately, guys, entrepreneurship is at an all-time low in this country. couple years ago for the first time in this country, more businesses are dying than are starting. it has never been this bad. people are not taking risk. however, know what happened in the great depression? companies like marriott popped up. disney popped up. >> supermarkets. laundry mats.