presidential contender you have to trust that when they give you stuff that that's it. you can't go where is it? you can't do that. >> well, if you want to double-check it with somebody, then i learned this actually from marlin fits water who is press secretary to reagan and george bush 41. you ask the secretary of defense the same question that you ask the national security advisor in same rooms. if they give you the same answer you are good to go to the podium. if they don't there is a problem. >> jennice, how would you defend hillary clinton? >> well, i would say it's a little brouhaha to use your word. why is this a story? this is a story because being very transparent and all of that information on the foundation's web site. they did not have to disclose they do not even take anonymous donations which they are allowed. >> i don't think it's going to be the big thing. i think it's going to be the email thing. you can make up your own mind whether you are