to get their side of the story but they wouldn't talk to fox news. they said quote since the appeals process is ongoing, the blm will not engage in conversations that could effect the outcome. the blm -- the u.s. department of just also declined our request. >> waiting to hear testimony on bullying by land managing agencies. >> wayne and a group of fellow ranchers testified before congress. >> i'm probably going to get retribution just from being here and stories that would make the hair stand up on your neck. >> until regulatory relief happens, wayne jr. continues this decades long fight that his