what you're talking about. >> and squishy because we don't have any facts. we don't have any facts because it is a leak from the justice department. >> it is a little bit of a smear campaign, i think that is what is going on. >> the facts and circumstances are this case, if you do that, i'll do this. again, the questions are medicare reimbursement, and whether or not customs is going to donate equipment to the dominican republic and the friend had a contract there and did that enrich him? so did this cross the lineñiñrñiñr from the usual favor-trding in washington? >> well let's get out the facts but what the justice department has done is come out and smear him. i don't know if he is guilty or not guilty, but the justice department, what they're doing is wrong. and near death on the run