income tax credit. and so during the obama administration, a pair of amendments requiring agencies to take action to reduce the amount of waste every year. and in spite of those the actual amendments to -- have a reduction it has actually gotten worse. >> it has gone worseñ and they play percentage games and say percentage-wise, it's down, that cf1 o is only because spending has gone up. so improper payments continue to go up. and it's really fraud when you look at the big portion of it. you know some of it is clerical errors, but when you look at $126 billion that becomes real money. >> so aruáu going to refer to the prosecution when you find people do this -- is it a crime for these government individuals and agencies to waste people's money -- >> i can tell you, appleton, wisconsin, and what you care