the emails? they have to be on a server somewhere, right? >> you go to the server provider and subpoena them and get them there. we have done some of that before. we tried that route with the irs and the oversight committee. bill: is it that easy though. with the irs thing it seemed like you are jumping through hoops. >> when you are dealing with this administration nothing is happy. in this case the state department can't give was they don't have. i understand that. but there are lots of other documents we try to get from them that we still haven't. but this is the norm for this administration. so whatever route we have to. bill: october 2011. savannah guthrie interviewing