>> this is a dwarf planet and then the plumes of steam on mars. what's going on. all these weird things at the same time? >> well, you know we're seeing the action on mars, and on that small little miniature planet as well. and maybe that's why we need to go out there. we need to find answers to the questions you're asking me. i don't have them. and perhaps that's one over the main reasons why we need to get a program together to get back out there. >> i'm wondering this planet where there's light or looks like a light almost looks like a tiny%ñ little city or one building. wouldn't that be a kick if that is some sort of life there. what do you think? >> well, i get that question all the time, neil. people want to know if i've seen aliens or other life in outer space, and the answer is, no. i've gone out there three times and i had my chances but that doesn't mean it isn't out there. mathematically, statistically,