>> out of 300,000, 20 people were fired. >> that's right. how does that strike you. you see a scandal, you see less people fired under mcdonald than the previous va secretary shinseki. what does it tell but the culture? >> it tells me veterans are not served. we conversation about schools and choice. learning is the most important thing. veterans are the most important thing. when it comes to choice they're not exactly getting that. i asked your colleague dan caldwell, last night what is the most important thing? what are veterans saying to? you what are they looking for? what is the one thing they want? the choice in health care. the va is so broken and so fractured, that is the last thing to be addressed unfortunately when we talk about it. >> you're working on something right now. >> funny you should mention choice. shameless plug alert. my organization is doing bipartisan fixing veterans health care task force. we're releasing a 100 page report that will fundamentally transperform va. working with bill frist and blue