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the reason is they're trying to capitulate to an extreme wing of the party. they don't want anybody deported. as you take a look at the deportation numbers they're plummeting to a fraction of what they were three or four years ago. i don't know h i don't know how the country is going to get out of this mess. whether it's overstaying tourist visa, coming across the border illegally or coming in another way, it's all over the world. >> guess what, jess. when the president on down says don't worry, we're going to slap you with this little piece of paper. i hope you i hope you show up next year for the court date. what do you think the message is to the illegals? >> that's not what's going on here. the point is the point is we've been talking about immigration reform in this country since the reagan administration. we've yet we've yet to see anything real happen. senator senator mccain has been working on this the entire he's been in the senate.

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