not hundreds, thousands. >> right. well, can you talk to us a little bit about what the officers were saying why did they want to do that? what were they saying about officer ramos? because they were there to remember him. everyone's upset with the mayor but this was really ability remembering a great man who lost his life too soon. >> the moon as all police funerals i've been to many many, many of them was extremely somber. more somber this time than any i think before. i think that has to do with the horrific circumstances of the double assassination. i think it struck to the core. put an ice pick in the heart of the nypd as an institution. it alerted them. it horrified them to the extent of the savagery that occurred. this wasn't a gunfight on a rooftop with a bank robber. this was two guys having a roast beef sandwich in broad daylight in a marked radio car on a quiet saturday afternoon. horrific. and i think it absolutely stilled the heart of the nypd. >> now, mark, there's been a lot of controversy from certain people saying that these police