isolationism or engagement? and i think really engaging nations -- look, for seven years we were at logger heads with the russians and we still are to a degree, yet we have an embassy there and we do trade. we do trade with cuba. it only goes one way. they don't sell anything to us, we do sell some stuff to them. but i think trade does draw us together. trade makes us much less likely to fight. we trade with china. look what happened after the vietnam war. one of the leaders opening up vietnam was john mccain. yes, we did fight with them, we lost 50,000 soldiers, but trade is a good way to improve relations. so i think we've tried it for a long time. it isn't working. when we have trade, when they see the extraordinary things that come from capitalism, that's what ultimately will excite the freedom movement in cuba and ultimately will topple the castros. >> do you really think the people there are going to get that true full picture of capitalism of trade of the rest