surprised that he was so supportive of romney since romney still hasn't decided not to get in. but there's so many candidates lined up on the right. the last three republican nominees have been relatively moderate. so what do you think? >> it's interesting to see how it's playing out. because if you pay attention to the media, romney is exploring, and you're not going to see a jeb bush and mitt romney running at the same time, so you may see a trial balloon to see how much interest there is. but it seems to me that jeb bush is all in and he wants to run at this time. >> he thinks he can overcome the competition or he wouldn't get in. >> i didn't think that marco rubio was actually going to put his hat in the ring. there are others, but i didn't think that marco rubio would do