not talk about it until the people start talking about it. again, that's why i'm glad we are doing segments like this to bring it to the forefront and to bring it to the consciouses of our leaders. >> as christians hear this before heading out to church this sunday morning, when we face trials and tribulations we doubt god and our faith, but they didn't. >> we talked about doubt last week. and i said, i doubt sometimes, god's intervention in my life, and that's a very normal human thing. so i don't think we have to be worried about doubt, but what we can do is say, i'm going to enact accordance with what i say i believe. and what i say, i believe that sometimes it's not perfect. my faith is not perfect. but i'm going to stand up and say, this is what i believe. this is what i'm going to do. we need to be practical in our personal lives and business, at work, et cetera. >> father jonathan morris, thank you for being here. >> pray for the families suffering the loss of their