afghanistan $75,000, to fund the very insurgency we were trying to fight. and most importantly he talked about some of the issues of how people were moved from iran into the united states which i can't get into because that's still classified. he broke completely where he'd made admissions to the fbi agent and i about certain sexual pick dill lows he did with his wife. >> you didn't ask him and he's giving you stuff. >> right. >> it wasn't torture. you didn't physically man handle him. but depriving somebody of sleep that's not allowed or whatever. >> it works. >> that's in your opinion. it worked in this case, did it not? >> that's what i'm worried about, bill. when senator feinstein comes out and starts pushing this line where things like legitimate often used from the dawn of time from world war ii on are legitimate. they are very coercive. they make you very