we have eyes and we can see the growing threat of isis and the president's strategy of dealing with isis isn't exactly working. the american people have a good sense of history. most of us lived through 9/11. we saw what they were capable of. keeping this prison sat guantanamo bay open is common sense. these are high-value targets. if they were somehow matriculated into the federal prison system or released to saudi arabia or yemen. the recidivism rate is one-third of the terrorists go back to the fight. martha: i'm struck when you look at the discussion of interrogation techniques. michael hayden said this yesterday in his discussion with bill. god bid. this is the reaction. 81% when things are happening