there usually faster than e.m.s. can. so, he went to that scene immediately and in this particular case, the e.m.s. got there simultaneously with darren. and so what he would do at that point was just take the pedigree information down and kind of just police the scene. >> and the race of the child, i mean, i don't know if it's relevant or not -- >> -- african-american. >> well, that's what i guess was curious about. the whole issue of race. i mean, there is no question about has poisoned this whole investigation from the get-go. you know, it's hard to look at the facts when everyone is so enraged. do you agree? >> i do agree. darren would have known that the likelihood of where he was going is predominantly african-american. >> the other thing -- >> -- greta, if i can add? >> go ahead. >> i was going to say, once he left that call, the only way to get back to his original sector, and, again, jim pointed out, he volunteered for this call.