concerns about whether or not that has been tampered with whether or not the russians have removed things from the scene. then there is some questions about specific intent. did they intend to shoot down a commercial aircraft or with were they trying to shoot down something else? is it t. doesn't matter. the law won't excuse it. transferred intent. all the things we have to look at to determine who should be held accountable and whether or not we can can create a nexus between this act of terrorism and directly tie it to russia. >> greg, the soviets did this twice. once in the carter administration. one in the reagan administration. i don't think this is what putin wants. a commercial airliner going down. i think it probably was a mistake. it doesn't help him. it doesn't make it look good. i don't think he really cares at this point. because the international community is not coalescing to stand up to him. and when we saw the europeans, they tried green energy. it didn't work. now they are still relying on russia. you will talked about energy independence back here at home. one of these moments see this is why it matters. >> i want to focus on the phone calls, because they seem. like if i was putin, you know what putin is going to