is inevitable. i think if he had backed his story up with statistics, they created a news story and a journalistic effort with statistics and rather than just just -- you can see him working himself into a rage almost. >> i feel bad for people who do that. >> i have never seen you do that. i have never seen you swear on a cable show. about any particular issue at all. it is pretty self-contained. joanne, what do you theng? think. >> i understand what he was trying to say, but the real issue lies in fear. the two groups, the cops and the inner city youth don't know how to interact with each other. it is a community esh you and there -- issue and there can be a community solution. they do operation conversation, cops and kids. if they have a conversation, it is a lot easier for the two to interact and understand each other, and i think that will really help solve this problem. i think it was right for him to bring up the issue, but i think he was focusing on on an