basically funds the wildlife management. not only directly through the hunting fees, but also by the employment that safaris bring to town and deterring poaching through distribution of meat locally, reducing human animal conflicts. when you place value on these animals, then they're willing to put up with them. >> a loft people see these lions and zebras and see them in zoos and think they're c.i.a. endangered. is that the truth? >> no, it's not. lions are in trouble in much of their range. but in other areas they're overpopulated. generally speaking where they're hunted it's because there is a huntable surplus. photographic safaris are very important. but they're done in carefully managed and manicured parks. hunting safaris generally go into areas where poe toe