larry was in sds -- >> sds was the precursor to the underground. >> it was the student movement. >> larry was lying and they doesn't know what they're talking about. >> bernadine dorn wasn't a fan of the police and referred to them typically as pig zplps sisters and brother, a year ago we blew away the haymarket pig statue at the start of the youth ride in chicago. the head of the police sergeant association called emotionally for all-out war between the pigs and us. we accepted it. last night we destroyed the pig again. it's two and a half weeks since fred hampton was murdered by the pigs who own this city. >> that was the rhetoric of the time. the black panthers did that, we did that. yes. >> what sort of rhetoric is what captures people's attention when she calling them pigs and celebrating bad things happening to the police and you allegedly