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some play here that we could actually create a government in baghdad that was a national unity government. and right now the maliki enterprise isn't any of those three things. i don't think it's a high-probability shot. and chris, if maliki continues in government, it's a zero-probability shot. i know what wendell said about our not insisting that maliki go, but frankly, i can't see this happening at all if he remains in power based on his track record. >> in your scenario, isis ends up holding on to a big chunk of western and northern iraq that you call sunnistan. do we just sit by and let this group, which al qaeda says is too violent for them, create a state in the middle of the middle east, in the center of the middle east and a base of operations for terror attacks? >> no, no.

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