i can't explain why. you want to talk about feminists this morning? you guys want to talk about feminists? >> do you guys want to talk about feminists? >> of course they don't, but we'll tell you anyway. there's a men's rights conference or group that put on a conference recently but was attacked by feminists as a hate group. the idea being when a large group of men get together it's hateful. >> meanwhile, the rub is they had female speakers at the conference. it wasn't like it was an exclusive group that was cut off and you couldn't actually have any women show up like a men's only treehouse. >> speakers, different races and genders. 100 guys got together, many going through divorces and they were getting together to try to find out how to be better fathers and how to get their kids back, what they need to do to improve their finances. >> that sounds scary.