situation. i know the three of you very well and you feel it, too. >> of course. >> you have kids pouring over. and some he have them are sick and it's a -- of them are sick and it's a terrible situation. but we have to strengthen our borders. we have to build a fence -- really a very big, powerful wall. we have to do something because people are bringing their children and they're saying, let the united states take care of them. we are almost a bankrupt nation. if you look at what's going on with the kind of money, 17 trillion, which is going up rapidly, which by the way, soon is going to be $21 trillion, we don't have the money. we don't have the resources. we don't have the people. we don't have the jobs. we don't have anything. we're supposed to be taking care of the world. it can't happen. we need strong borders. >> absolutely. and that is the position of a number of republicans.