all over the world. this went on for a long time. that would continue. the new reason. this group, the islamic state in iraq and syria, isis. look, if they were going to establish a state in northern iraq, establish and draw a circle around it and live happily ever after, who would care. this is not what they are. this is a centrifugal, outward ving source. they're going to plan terror strikes into the region, into our countries like jordan, conceivably enis real and then western europe and the united states. >> isn't this the dream of bin laden to establish what he called the caliphate, and they control territory from aleppo, west of syria all the way to the suburbs of baghdad. >> yeah, you're talking about a distance of about 400 miles. we're not talking about a small amount of territory. and a caliphate, with its capital in baghdad, was precisely the dream of people like bin laden and other