duck calls, too. we still make them here. with the show a lot of people buy them. i have another room that has people in it that literally work eight hours a day. >> uncle sy sitting over there. >> you know -- >> jace is here. >> but jace has to teach all the new guys how to make -- you know, the technical as speblpea it's like musical instrument. you have volumes, tones. >> how did your father start this? 40 years ago? >> he wanted his duck call to sound just like a duck. >> i watch the show a lot and they always play basketball. where is the hoop? >> it's out there. >> it's out there? >> i'll probably hit the basketball. >> i see on the show more times you tell people to stop playing. >> every once in awhile i come back here to shoot -- >> to unwind. >> whenever -- yeah. do you play basketball? >> yes, sir. >> are you any good? >> i think i could beat you. >> in what?