coming years and fights back again to regain territory they had prior to september, october of 2001? >> i think that's correct. bill: big difference is that the taliban gave refuge to al qaeda. does that happen again? >> i think we might see remnants of al qaeda there. i think it is critical that america have stay behind intelligence and special forces series of units. remember the taliban's goal, these guys stare at their 1/2 vales all day long. they're not about new york. they're about kabul. they will be there saying we were almost, almost in control of the entirety of the country where we could dictate what happens here and bit my take of al qaeda in conducting those attacks, we lost everything we fought for. i think they're going to say, please don't do anything to bring westerners again because we have a chance of victory against the government in kabul that is relatively week. bill: a warrior fighting for a generation. >> that's right. bill: to the "time" interview he says, you know, we are also human, and have hearts in our