very confirmed deserter, multiple. >> you know, it's just -- i think you'd have a better case if you said to me, juan, thb president has made a big show of loving the military at every turn, done everything -- >> how so? i would never say something like that because it's not true. >> oh, it is true. the president has made -- i think people on this show have questioned whether it's sincere. >> he's cut benefits at the department of defense. he's drawn down the military. there's a sergeant in the marines -- you said we're at war? that jailed marines served two tors in afghanistan. >> he's in mx co- >> does it matter which country they're in? >> we're not in war with mexico. >> are we, juan? >> no, we're not. i couldn't agree more. i think it's out of line for it that man to have tweeted that message and i think it's out of line for the white house to be saying that somehow these soldiers are swift boating derg baderg bergdahl. those soldiers were on the ground. they were there. they have a story to tell.