an --ed. >> you know what's interesting about what shinseki did? i said there was this tick tock of things he did before he walked into the oval office s and one was he was trying to call on bernie sanders to go forward with this bill that would make it easier to fire people at the va, right? bernie sanders being the independent from vermont who's very outspoken on this, but not in the sense of getting this bill pushed through. why is that important, jedediah? >> i think tucker's exactly right. i think that doesn't just hold for positions we're talking about right now, that goes for education, everywhere. you have to be able to fire people who are incompetent or who have a proven record of not doing their job very well, and until you can do that, there is no accountability in any system i don't care if you're talking about the government. the private sector there is accountability, and people do lose their jobs, and that's why things get fixed. >> yeah, because the market demands -- >> away demand. >> the market -- demands accountability. kirsten, i want to ask you this